EZX and OPIE simultaneously

[rpconnect]

You should be able to use the standard Qt 2.3.10 headers. Just use the libs provided with my OPIE distribution when running

thanks, i'll give it a try. if more opie/qt apps could be successfully compiled against your moded libs perhaps we could start a subsection in the downloads section to share.

[NickyChang]

1. Has anybody tried with A780? Can you tell me what you get?
2. Sorry but I can't download the Opieproxy. Pls up load somewhere (such as Sendit). Thanx

[rpconnect]

@nickychang
You can get the whole opie.cramfs image from the yousendit site (posted earlier in this thread) and this should be all you need to try/test opie for the a780. If you do not know linux (as i noticed from the other thread you started) you do not need the opieproxy source or qt patches as these are only needed to rebuild cyph's opie.cramfs package from scratch.

[NickyChang]

@rpconnect
Thanks for your advice. I tried on my A780 and I can say some things:
1. I got opie.cramfs form the forum (which has 45,024kb) and replace opie.cramfs in opie/lib (which has 21,488kb). Run opie.lin, I got yellow screen and my phone nearly crash. Why?
2. Almost apps can't run in opie, because they haven't scrip. I wonder where they are?
3. I can't install (or don't know how) any file.
4. Interface is good but: font is small, I have to try my best to read; can't modify as in phone.
5. My phone is slow, and memory almost full when I run Opie.
6. What is advantage when I use OPIE?

[rpconnect]

@nickychang
glad to know you got opie installed, and yes it does take a while to start the first time and it does eat up a lot of memory (that is why it works best with the swapfile). as far as your questions go:

1- the 21 MB opie uses modified qt libraries to allow it to work w/ the opieproxy so that you can go back and forth between opie and the native phone apps; my guess is that the 45 MB file uses the qt libs that came out of the "standard" qt/opie build described on leprechaun's site. These qt libs wont' work w/ cyph's opieproxy.

2- not all of the possible apps were included in cyph's initial package, most are there but not all. If you want more you can go to leprechaun's guide at http://marcus.bluetroll.se/e680/ and create your own build environment, although all the tools are currently only availablw for building w/ linux. I have a few extra opie apps that aren't included in cyph's cramfs image, it will take some modification of cyph's scripts in order to include alternate paths so that you can install extra apps outside the cramfs image. maybe we can find a place in the downloads section to share opie apps that are known to work w/ cyphs modified qt libs but not yet included in the cramfs image

3- to install extra files would either require that you recreate the cramfs image w/ new apps, or modify cyph's scripts to include another bin location in the search path (recrating the cramfs would require linux, to modify the scripts it would help to know some linux, but not necessary); note that opie can access the whole phone filesystem, so by "adding files" i am assuming that you mean adding applications

4- i cannot remember offhand how much of the appearance can be changed, but check out the "Appearance" app in the system tab of the opie apps.

5- yep, the phone slow's down w/ the opie apps and it does use up memory; hopefully this will get better as we learn more and rework the opie possibilities; i've learned from strace results that for some reason the library loader goes through a lot of non-existant directories when searching for libraries, hopefully future firmware mods to the rootfs should speed up opie apps (i havent yet tried the C5 firmware for the e680i, but i hear that it is better)

6- currently the actual advantage to opie is not that huge, particularly if you are not interested in contributing to development. for me the advantages are: a) it can be done and there are potentially a ton of apps that we can eventually port to the phone (check out openembedded for zauraus and ipaq, a lot of these binaries can be run on the phone), b) that it is capable of playing ogg files (we cant supplement the native real player with plugins for different media formats), c) it give us another method of developing home-made apps for the phone other than J2ME stuff and d) (my personal favorite) we can use opie apps for BT networking, for example, using VNC or browse the web over bluetooth w/o having to live with the networking restrictions of the native java virtual machine.

[MigEL]

Could you imagine a Sharp Zauraus wi-fi PDA smartphone! with all those apps & developement that has been done with the Open Zauraus projects! Sharp does make phones.

[intoxicated]

anybody tried using the opie vncviewer through bluetooth with leoppp?
its so slow... guess bluetooth is not as fast as usb cable...

[rpconnect]

yes, i notice the same problem. It is also slow when using ubrowser, but at least it works (i have a prepaid phone service and it blocks general http access, so browsing w/ BT is my only possibility)

[arbu]

so wonderful

[arbu]

what to know how to use the opie(42m)?
can it run on e680?