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    Default Using internal gps in europe

    Hope that will help people which were , as I did, searching for a long time for something, which the phone is already able to...
    There seems to be a jsr-179 in the a1600!

    cytux told me in this thread http://www.motorolafans.com/forums/a...av-pilots.html. that setting the permissions only with registry.txt isn't enough. There seems to be a little bug (I would call it a bug) in the a1600.
    After you changed the permissions, then tap on the app and go to manage->permissions. Then klick (!) on "Location based services" and choose "Never ask" (I know that "Never ask" is ready chosen, but you have to choose it again). Then the java-app should be able to use the built-in gps. I did that with Trekuddy and it works!


    Hello at all

    I'm sorry that I open a new Thread. I found a lot of posts about this, but my post doesn't really fit with them because its not specific. Hope that's ok for you.

    I've bought my a1600 a few days ago and tried to use my gps-Feature.
    The problem is, as you surely know, that the motonav-App has no maps from europe (I'm austrian). I knew that before and planed to install trekbuddy which has all I need.
    Now I realized, that Java needs a Location API (JSR-179) and the a1600 doesn't has this.
    I had the idea to find a way to install the JSR-179 but I wasn't really successful
    And I have no idea, where I have to put such files...

    I also searched for maps for motonav and had another idea to change a map into Vienna, but I wasn't able to...

    Then I searched for another application which is not Java and I found a project, where someone was able to install Tomtom on his phone. It sounds good, but also complicate and most of all: risky. I'am also afraid, that this is not compatible with the a1600.
    I also found CoPilot which is officaly only compatible witch the Q-series. Can I also install it on the a1600? If, yes: How? I found the first version for free download, which is enough for me, but I have no idea where to find maps...

    So, my questions are:
    Is it possible to install the Location API on my phone?
    Are there other applications like trekbudy, which I can install and aren't written in Java?
    Is there a way to build my own motonav-Maps?

    Or:
    Is there any way to use internal gps in europe?

    And by the way:
    I'm not very happy with the menus of a1600. One problem is, that I can't switch easily between applications. I always have to close one, to get to the other. Or I open the taskmanager, which isn't very practical. Is there an application (or maybe a function I didn't find) which can fix that?
    I'm also searching for a way to change the menus. I found startmenu, but I'm not happy with it. Are there other application or hacks for operating on the phone?


    Thanks to this forum. It has a lot of useful things. And most of all: Thanks to the people who where scripting and writing all the useful things^^
    And, last but not least: Thanks to all, who'll answer, for their time and so on^^

    Greetings
    Jodli
    Last edited by Jodli; 06-11-2009 at 01:18 PM. Reason: found a solution!

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    Noone any idea?

    I've found Destinator, which seems to work. I'm able to install on my Pc but no idea how to install on my phone. I need active sync which doesn't work on my phone and the demo-version from page 5 (in the same thread, manual on page 4) doesn't accept my licence-key. It always prompts a "save error". Doesn't sound like a wrong key... And I have no idea which destcore.dll I have to replace....

    Hope that someone can help me...

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    I'm from the other side of the world (Argentina) and I've made the same search with the same sad results. I've posted 3 or 4 treads and there´s no answer. (sorry for my english)
    Try with Googlemaps: Google Maps (Java) download for Java - Softpedia it works with GPRS, but it works!
    Ale

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    There seems to be a jsr-179 in the a1600!

    cytux told me in this thread http://www.motorolafans.com/forums/a...av-pilots.html that setting the permissions only with registry.txt isn't enough. There seems to be a little bug (I would call it a bug) in the a1600.
    After you changed the permissions, then tap on the app, go to manage->permissions. Then klick (!) on "Location based services" and choose "Never ask" (I know that "Never ask" is ready chosen, but you have to choose it again). Then the java-app should be able to use the built-in gps. I did that with Trekuddy and it works!

    Hope that will help you
    Greetings

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    I think I did it and still doesn't works, I will try again.
    I find another program for GPS, I' learning how to use it, try it:
    Map Mobile Navigator - J2ME + GPS navigation system (Мобильный навигатор карт - MapNav): Map Mobile Navigator Manual
    Ale

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    To make some things clear:

    This is not a bug. New cell phone models have more and more a drm feature in J2ME midp 2.0/1 implemented which allows the manufacturer to control what power a developer has over the hardware. The A1600 is no exception.

    Usually, nobody without a Motorola certificate for an application could use jsr-179 (gps) and some other jsr's or features. This is described in the developer manuals.

    To change the permission files of J2ME apps and then later change the app security settings is a trick or workaround. As long as it works, I wouldn't complain. Though, even this trick or workaround does not allow everything of the drm to bypass.

    The A1600 has full features of gps even working for any J2ME application as long as this trick or workaround is used to bypass the certification process. And gps is of course usable worldwide. All other questions are regarding the applications and what maps are available.
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    I made a map of my city with Global Map Download Tool, how can I make it compatible with Trekbuddy or Mapnav?
    Ale

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    Thumbs up Thank you!!!

    Why didn't I find this earlier?!
    I hope the workaround will do its job with other, simpler SatNav SW like MGMaps, GoogleMaps or WeTravel. I will let you know, when I achieved something.
    Stupid question: how do I change permissions?
    Last edited by tymcat; 12-30-2009 at 09:07 PM. Reason: SW not for my purposes, still looking.


 
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